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The Powder Picker's avatar

We have consensus!

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Taryn Winsor's avatar

Yes Carney does need a jolly good rogering!!

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Hi Jay. As they say, belief is a question of politics or religion. I try not to believe anything unless there's clear evidence produced by proper, uncorrupted, non-incentivized science supporting it.

On the question of whether or not human-added CO2 has a significant (or ANY!) warming effect on the atmosphere: not a chance, because there's zero evidence supporting a ridiculous trace-gas-controls-the-weather-flat-earth hypothesis.

Ian Plimer states it best: for every 85,000 molecules that compose the atmosphere, 33 are CO2. Of those 33, 32 are natural and 1 is human-added by fossil fules. We're asked to believe that the 32 natural molecules have absolutely no effect but the ONE human-added molecule determines the temperature of the atmosphere!

Believe that at your peril. Jim Jones' followers and the Heaven's Gaters were believers too, as were the Harvard judges executing witches in Salem. At least the Salem mob were quick to regret and repent. This Carney-led crowd of delusionists will go to their graves demonizing CO2.

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Jay Akerley's avatar

Thanks David, food for thought and some reading (I will have a look at Plimer). A question you may or may not be inclined to answer: Are there many meteorologists (not the journalistic ones) who see things your way? And they just keep quiet?

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Canadian meteorologist are apallingly quiet. Most have been swimming in the ideological cesspool of their Environment Canada roots too long. I know from experience just how hard it is to accept the colleague 'scientist' you went to with CC questions all those years was only pretending to know the field and merely riding the celebrity of his Nobel Peace prize at the expense of the truth.

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Jay Akerley's avatar

Thanks, David. I have an idea who you are talking about.

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Jay Akerley's avatar

Dave, is it that you don’t believe in anthropogenic climate change, don’t believe there’s anything that can be done to remedy it, or don’t believe tax dollars can remedy it, or…. ? Just curious. I am not a scientist and keep a curious mind. I can certainly agree that the media’s treatment of it, attributing every little event to “the changing climate”, doesn’t help the cause IF it is anthropogenic and something CAN be done. At this point I feel they’ve done more to actually hurt that cause.

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Jay Akerley's avatar

I get it when you say that “no weather is unprecedented” etc - totally understand. Are you saying the weak / meandering jet is not a thing insomuch as we are being led to believe? The retreat of the glaciers and warming of average temperatures has nothing to do with rising CO2 levels? Just trying to understand.

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Thanks Chris. I have intelligent friends who see Carney as a savant and saviour. Good Lord!

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Chris Gravel's avatar

I could not agree more. How someone who works for agencies that print money out of thin air can suggest we need to take more tax dollars to improve the climate or worse redistribute wealth....well he most definetly deserves something special and it is certainly not more influence. Thank you for your insights and honesty.

See you on the slopes

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